The Lost/Alias timeline

[jetpack_monkey]

Okay, so at the end of Season 2 of Alias, the show jumps ahead two years. Now, this means Season 3 runs 2005-2006 (and, consequently, Season 4 runs 2006-2007), roughly. We can't retcon and say that Season 1 happened two years in the past because it references the Patriot Act, so it had to take place in 2001-2002 at the earliest.

Now, during an early ep of Alias this season, we heard "You All Everybody" playing in the background. "You All Everybody" is, of course, the hit song by the band Driveshaft, featuring Charlie from Lost. So this puts both series in the same universe (discounting a parallel universe theory that has two versions of Driveshaft and that song, one in a universe where the plane crashes and one where it doesn't).

My first impulse was that Lost also takes place in the future. However, in Outlaws, Jack refers to the Red Sox never having won a World Series. Therefore, the recent Series victory by the Sox had to happen after the crash, placing Lost squarely in our own time.

This means a fairly basic thing - Alias happens after Lost. If there's any information about the whereabouts of the castaways, if they were rescued, if there was some signal from them that was lost, if there was a second crash... It may have already happened in Alias-time.

One wonders if J.J. is going to take advantage of this. I sure hope so.

Now, this leaves the question of who the heck is that pilot guy and why does he look so much like Weiss? There's a fic by Yahtzee that I'm too lazy to locate the link for that suggests that Weiss has a brother, which is about the most reasonable explanation I can think of. You know, other than "J.J. had to get Grunberg in somewhere..."

And where does this leave Kendall and Locke?

Comments are welcome, but keep in mind that I'm unspoiled for future eps and wish to remain so.

Comments

[invisionary.livejournal.com]

I used to think the shows were set in the same universe too, but I've since discounted that idea. The fact that JJ has used a couple of the same actors in different roles on each would be too big a stumbling block, IMO. So I'm now thinking that the Driveshaft song was just a little in-joke for Lost fans who also watch Alias, rather than something meant to show that both series are in the same universe.

[jetpack-monkey.livejournal.com]

Trying to stop my crazy and harebrained attempt to insert some sense into J.J.'s audio/visual ramblings will only get you heartbreak. I'm unstoppable. And slightly disturbed. And disturbing. And I make really swell lime bars.

[invisionary.livejournal.com]

Heh. I'm not really trying to stop you, per se. Just commenting. But I really wouldn't be surprised if the Alias finale featured Sydney, et. al., activating some Rambaldi device and having it point the way to a remote jungle island in the middle of the Pacific....

[jetpack-monkey.livejournal.com]

It'd be (sorta) like Buffy's end. The Alias finale paves the way for, say, Sloane and Carrie Bowman to join the Lost cast! Lord knows we need a female with some snark and verve on the island. Shannon doesn't count because she's vapid.

[kittycat22.livejournal.com]

Your brain is scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaary.

[jetpack-monkey.livejournal.com]

Yes. Fear me.

[qkellie.livejournal.com]

Kendall and Locke are brothers, just as Pilot and Weiss are brothers. ;) Just kidding, really, but I firmly believe that both shows CAN take place in the same universe, just not that they're supposed to in an overt way, but I sure as hell WANT them to!

[jetpack-monkey.livejournal.com]

I suspect there will be some more minor crossovers in the offing. However, if it's implied that both shows are taking place at the same time, I'm going to hit my head against something.

Well, given the rapidity with which Alias eps play out, I suppose it's *possible* that Season 2's jump didn't take them *that* far ahead in the future if they were already in the past. If that makes sense.

[qkellie.livejournal.com]

Ahhh, could be, could be. And also one must keep in mind that Lost time is all wonky, as in I think we're still in Month One of island living, so they're still stuck in October of '04 or something.